{"id":84,"date":"2008-08-20T14:38:37","date_gmt":"2008-08-20T12:38:37","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.vwgeek.com\/?p=84"},"modified":"2008-08-20T15:27:46","modified_gmt":"2008-08-20T13:27:46","slug":"get-that-motor-out","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.vwgeek.com\/?p=84","title":{"rendered":"Get that motor out."},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: center\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.vwgeek.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/08\/img_2679-large.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-85  aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/www.vwgeek.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/08\/img_2679-large.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"375\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.vwgeek.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/08\/img_2679-large.jpg 1024w, http:\/\/www.vwgeek.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/08\/img_2679-large-300x225.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I will copy the post i posted on the vwar.org forums.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">I removed the motor from an auto stick today. It went well (as in I got the motor out) and bad (as in I now have a removable rear valance)<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">Okies well there I was watching and reading the diy guides on motor removal, but it looked fairly simple and as the Bentley hadn\u2019t arrived I decided to ump on in.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">With guidance from 68autobug and a few others on the vwar.org forum I jumped in.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">Now I will go from start to finish (as I was a complete amateur at this)<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">First we undo the accelerator cable from the carbie and push it into the tinware (and out the back)<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">Next undo any pipes that are leading from the control valve to the carbie. Also you will notice a pipe coming out the front bit of the tinware that has a bolt on it BE very careful if you bend this your rooted, use two spanners to do it and a heck of a-lot of WD40.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">Now go for a scoot under the car (drain the oil), find where the accelerator cable is and pull it out (I found that I needed someone to jiggle the other side of the cable to find it)<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">There is also a fuel line down there so undo it and chuck a screw driver in the end to stop it leaking (I still got petrol all over me).<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">There is also 1 pipe that leads to the control valve just undo it from the valve itself and pull it through (not sure if this is really needed)<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">Being a 1600DP motor that means its the normal dog house fan shroud. So I remove the first bolt on the top behind the shroud (RHS)<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">Next one was a so called &#8220;easy&#8221; one to get to, I reckon I spent the good part of two hours here, the bolt which would be easy to get to on a standard manual was now obscured by the clutch armature (tank) {that may be the wrong description}. You could reach the bolt here but I just couldn\u2019t seem to get enough leverage on the bolt to undo (you know how ratchet and extensions can be) it. Anyway I ended up grabbing my trusty 10mm ratchet and taking the 3 bolts that hold the tank in, out. Then its held with a tube clip to the armature I just closed it and popped the connector out. Now I could remove the tank and get to the bolt and use some strength to undo it (I almost had a hernia here).<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">The following bolt is like directly below the first bolt (10 or so cms), nice and easy and the final bolt is on the other side in the same identical spot to the previous.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">I then undid the lot of 4 bolts that I believe affix the torque converter, they are directly below the last two screws and easy to get to. (this is WRONG)<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">By now you more then likely need a shower and a nice big eye rinse (I was black lol)<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">So were at the spot where we drop the motor.. all the books said just pull the tail pipes with a jack under the oil strainer and she will disengage.. Which is what I did sure it came out, but I physically couldn\u2019t get the motor forward enough to pull out, then I realised my aftermarket exhaust was stoping the movement of the engine, I undid the exhaust and gave it a go.. damn still cant get the motor out far enough for the teeth on the torque converter to clear, <span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0<\/span>(now seeing the torque converter isn\u2019t meant to happen it turns out there are 4 8mm\/10mm bolts that connect the torque converter to the flex plate, to reach them you need to go under the car {before you take the motor out} and undo the 4 screws through the access holes on the side of the transmission housing). So here I am motor half out torque converter teeth grinding on the transmission housing, and every move I\u2019m getting worried this motor removal could be terminal.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">I remembered a quick post I here about the car needing to be level (as the backend was just jacked up) it didn\u2019t seem to make much difference.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">I just sat there defeated by what is supposedly the basic of basic motor removals. I thought screw it I ground the rear apron off and the motor came out beautifully. (with the thoughts of making it into a removable apron later.)<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman;\">I replacement aprons a few days back for $40 each brand new, you think I could find some in stock after I cut the apron off????.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: center\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.vwgeek.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/08\/img_2729-large.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-86  aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/www.vwgeek.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/08\/img_2729-large.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"375\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.vwgeek.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/08\/img_2729-large.jpg 1024w, http:\/\/www.vwgeek.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/08\/img_2729-large-300x225.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>So yeah oops but then again makes life easier with a removeable apron in the future.<\/p>\n<p style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: center\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.vwgeek.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/08\/enginetrolley.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-87  aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/www.vwgeek.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/08\/enginetrolley.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"702\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.vwgeek.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/08\/enginetrolley.png 569w, http:\/\/www.vwgeek.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/08\/enginetrolley-213x300.png 213w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>What i thought i would post here is the greatest thing ever. I was <a href=\"http:\/\/forums.aussieveedubbers.com\/viewtopic.php?tid=70447\" target=\"_blank\">chatting on the aussieveedubbers.com forums about an engine trolly,<\/a>and i went seatching high and low but they wanted upwards of 150 bux for one and for something i may only use 2 or 3 times.\u00a0 (thanks to <span><strong>Matt Ryan<\/strong><\/span>from Aussieveedubbers for finding this pic at <a href=\"http:\/\/oacdp.freeweb7.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">Obsolete Air-Cooled Documentation Project<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: center\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.vwgeek.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/08\/img_2675-large.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-88  aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/www.vwgeek.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/08\/img_2675-large.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"375\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.vwgeek.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/08\/img_2675-large.jpg 1024w, http:\/\/www.vwgeek.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/08\/img_2675-large-300x225.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span><strong>Notch Nut<\/strong><\/span>from Aussieveedubbers let me in on a secret shopping trolleys make the best motor dollies. The story here is amazing, I seriously read this post and thought but how the heck could i get a trolly i don&#8217;t live near any supermarkets and i don&#8217;t know of any compulsive shopping trolly hoarders near by. Anyway to the good part a few days after notch nuts post i was driving near coles and i was saying to my partner &#8220;i really need just the trolly base&#8221; and believe it or not there is this beauty sitting in the middle of the road no basket to be seen, i opened my boot threw her in and was on my way, sometimes you just have to be lucky.<\/p>\n<p style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: center\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.vwgeek.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/08\/img_2678-large.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-89  aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/www.vwgeek.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/08\/img_2678-large.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"375\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.vwgeek.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/08\/img_2678-large.jpg 1024w, http:\/\/www.vwgeek.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/08\/img_2678-large-300x225.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>And that&#8217;s basically how it works.<\/p>\n<p style=\"TEXT-ALIGN: center\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.vwgeek.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/08\/dscf1655-custom.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-46  aligncenter\" title=\"dscf1655-custom\" src=\"http:\/\/www.vwgeek.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/08\/dscf1655-custom.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"375\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.vwgeek.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/08\/dscf1655-custom.jpg 1280w, http:\/\/www.vwgeek.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/08\/dscf1655-custom-300x225.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>and there she is in use \ud83d\ude00 works a treat, thanks guys.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I will copy the post i posted on the vwar.org forums. \u00a0 I removed the motor from an auto stick today. It went well (as in I got the motor out) and bad (as in I now have a removable rear valance) \u00a0 Okies well there I was watching and reading the diy guides on [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[6,8,10],"tags":[21,18,22,20],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.vwgeek.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/84"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.vwgeek.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.vwgeek.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.vwgeek.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.vwgeek.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=84"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"http:\/\/www.vwgeek.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/84\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":103,"href":"http:\/\/www.vwgeek.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/84\/revisions\/103"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.vwgeek.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=84"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.vwgeek.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=84"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.vwgeek.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=84"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}